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精力吸収 "Absorb Life Force"

Changed the translation - it should be either "Absorb Vitality" or "Absorb Life Force". Well, more correctly, "Life Force Absorption", but that's kind of cumbersome. In any case, this is kind of a pun on 精液　seieki (spooge, cum, manjuice, etc), which is why I chose to translate it as "Life Force" rather than simply "Energy". (See also: Figu@Mate.) --Eldwulf 12:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Observation: I recently created a girl with this trait combined with Easily Aroused and Dojikko. Did the usual thing - hugs and hanging out until her friendship reached green, then did it. Came about 4 times - at least 1 was outside, 1 might have been, but 2 were inside. After that her Love meter instantly went red - a check using the savefile editor showed a value of 1556 (IIRC). Based upon this observation I'm provisionally assuming that girls with this trait get a boost to their Love meter (don't think it applies to Friendship) whenever the main character comes in or on them (not sure whether it applies to "on"). Further observations indicate that the girl's Horniness level may decrease when the main character comes in or on her, but I cannot confirm this. --Eldwulf 12:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Eldwulf, there's a monitor that will allow you to verify that Love gain, and another to monitor the horniness gain. I recommend you verify with both monitors before making any claims.

Hmm, thanks. It's not on the mod page, so I added it there. Will verify when I have a bit of spare time. --Eldwulf 15:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Where can this pleasure meter be found? I cant see it anywhere..

Girls with this Trait will very rarely ask for a condom, even if they're Green and Timid/Uneasy Around Men, and even then won't insist on it if you refuse. Girls in the Red with this trait will never request a condom, and may prevent you from ending a scene if you haven't cum inside at least once. Cumming in the girl's mouth or pussy will reset the Hunger need to 0 on ending the scene.)

えっち "Lewd"

I have confirmation that girls won't run away even when the guy is naked. On the other hand, there is a theory that girls with this attribute can be humped in blue state. I find that true with some girls, but not so with other girls (two girls with Lewd, Devoted, and Sexual Appetite wouldn't even let me hug them in blue). So it might be a combination with other factors. -Afker 09:39, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Its a true theory, with out it they will not let you do it at all at blue stage (Though I think one or 2 other traits also allow sex at blue). This doesn't garantee sex though, some personalities are harder to get then others even with lewd. --NeonSamurai 03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Another good mix would be with 精力吸収 Energy Absorption, i have noticed a pattern that girl with えっち Lewd coupled with this tend to last longer. I think that 精力吸収 Energy Absorption works just like how it's supposed to be, the more you blow inside of her the longer she'll want the whole session to last (somehow by blowing inside she regains energy... glad the main character cant die lol), i added えっち Lewd and i think i just made magic o_O;; - Wandering H-man 13:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I reckon this is a reference to Taoism. If the male can bring the female to orgasm without reaching orgasm himself, he can steal away some of the energy of the female. Otherwise, the exchange goes in the opposite direction, or cancels out.Sketchy 06:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoist_sexual_practices
Damn, this must be why I've been called a sexual vampire. Anyway, there are many combinations of traits and P-types that will be open to sexual exchange before Love or Friendship reaches 1000; any girl's predispositions will be modified by their horniness to some extent. Lewd girls specifically will be more likely to accept sexual engagement at any Love/Friendship/horniness level, won't be impressed or perturbed by nudity, will gain 100 Love and 200 horniness every time you enter the Bath while they're bathing, and will gain at least 240, the maximum, when they see a sexual encounter ongoing.


Here is a thing I am not sure: do Lewd girls look for you more often when they are horny? K61824 19:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I think I've confirmed now that acquiring Lewd doesn't require a scene outside or public, but the girl does need to be seen while arousal is high enough that she won't immediately stop. It doesn't matter if the witnessing girl stays or runs away, she just has to respond to the scene, and then the girl you're in H with has to reach orgasm.DokEnkephalin 15:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, you could be right. I have the expansion, and was in a world with 5 girls, all with the Blood Related trait and all with the same surname. None of them start with Brother Complex or Lewd, my goal was to get them to acquire those traits manually. Following the steps to acquire lewd seemed to work for the first girl, although I think I did 4 H-scenes instead of 3 as stated. However, the next girl still hasn't been "broken" even despite following the same steps, and I've already done her 6 times. Both indoors and outdoors. I can't think of anything I'm missing but what you say may be it (i.e. she needs to be seen by another girl in at least one of the sessions). Gonna try this later. Best place to "get caught" will most likely be in the corridor of the house since it's in many pathways (on the way to the bathroom, bedrooms, living room, etc)... although I think getting them to agree to have sex there might be a problem :P Trucidation 22:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

UPDATE: This seems to be right. Once I got a scene where another girl walked in on us, the next two I was pursuing acquired Lewd (one by one, of course). With Blood Related girls it's easy to confirm, their Love level finally begins gaining points. I'm having trouble with the fourth girl though, I can't seem to force a collapse. She's a U-type with Good Cook and Timid traits. I've been using the same m.o. as on other girls: kiss -> masturbate to orgasm; lie down -> cunnilingus to orgasm; penetrate -> guy-only orgasm; continue in same position, this time attempt to get girl into the tongue-hanging-out continual orgasm mode (make sure guy doesn't orgasm again); repeat 5 continual girl-only orgasms (easy since guy doesn't incr orgasm meter while girl is in continual orgasm mode). Finish, stand up. The girl should attempt to stand, but fall to her feet (the "collapse"). It's not working for this girl though. Maybe I need to give her some more orgasms; I'll try incrementing by one each time until she finally collapses. Trucidation 05:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE: Not sure what I did wrong on that world; I started another world, again with 5 sisters and none with brother fixation. To check, I tried making each of them collapse once - no problems, so I started breaking them. Noticed that you may have to sleep/save/quit/restart for their Love level to begin showing points. Again, the first three sisters broke and started getting points in Love, but I'd made the 4th one collapse like 6 times and still nothing happened, so I took a break and quit. When I restarted the game later, her Love points immediately started going up when I interacted with her. Hmmm. I'm guessing you need to save then restart for some girls' changes to take effect. Doesn't sound right, I could've made a mistake somewhere, although I can't figure out where. Trucidation 22:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE:I can confirm that the lewd trait can be obtained using a single girl on a world, providing one of the sessions is held outdoors. Killzone

女の子好き "Likes Girls"

This one seems to make the girls horny (get sweaty and touch themselves) when they watch your character have a sexual encounter with another girl, more so even then lewd, which just watches and cheers you on. --NeonSamurai 03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Can't confirm that. Lewd girls with a red orb do that as well, even without this trait. (Muhmaker)

Try it with a non lewd girl who likes girls and she will watch from my testing. I think originally this trait was supposed to make the girl act bisexual given what we know about the extra sounds that aren't in use. --NeonSamurai 21:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

"(Not Implemented yet, was taken out by developers to fix/add to patch/expansion)" Is this Confirmed or Speculation? This is great news if it's confirmed, since it means more is on the way --Veinot 02:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

This trait also allows girls to love other girls, and sleep with them more often than alone. 4 girls with this trait all sleep together if possible, and have varying degrees of love for each other, one has it maxed at 2k. The single girl without the trait has no love for the other girls and tries to sleep alone. Though that does not preclude while she's sleeping that another girl won't join her. Trait makes it difficult to get girls in bed alone :\ --VoidStar 07:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I can confirm that it let's girls love each other (Using the AG3 Trait Editor), but I can't confirm the sleeping part. None of my girls have this trait, but they still sleep together often (I once saw all of my 5 girls asleep in the 2P room, 3 in one bed, 2 in the other, although that may have just been a fluke. --Veinot 18:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
The 'Likes Girls' has no effect because it hasn't been implemented. Any Lewd girl in the Red will stay to watch sex and masturbate. It doesn't make them more likely to sleep together, it doesn't make them less jealous when watching you fuck their friends, it doesn't enable 3P, it doesn't make them lick each other's clits when their horniness level hits the tops of their skulls and sluts -- it doesn't do anything as of 1.03.

VoidStar 11:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)>Not implemented fully, it does have an effect. Just doesn't do/affect everything it was intended to yet.

Noted the following involved with this trait: A girl with this trait WILL kiss other girls on the cheek sometimes. Also, there are some dialogue changes, such as the girl saying she wishes she could attend an all-girl school someday. I'm not about how this affects their sleeping habits, though. Will observe more later. KonekoKeita 15:45, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

For what it is worth: I used girls from a previous world after resetting their virginity and the only differances I noticed where indeed that girls with this trait kiss an other (not another, it is a one way action) and have special suggestive talk, both towards the player and other girls, most noticable with something that comes down to "I wanna eat pussy". It is just as the normal random talk but with likely a higher priority (also one way, the other girl doesn't actually repond to it, even when she has this trait too). An effect of this trait is that such girl now also divides their time with others, which means (a small bit) less with the player. I can't say that their behaviour is different when seeing the player in action with another, but maybe it just small and need extensive testing. Another thing that needs a try out is the effect related with 'Sister Fixation', but I haven't much hope on that either. Locustus 02:59, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

感じやすい "Easily Aroused"

I believe this trait also makes it much easier to get a girl into Perpetual Orgasm mode. I have a C-type with this trait, and 'Devoted', and I often get her into Perpetual Orgasm mode by accident, however I can't confirm whether it's Easily Aroused, Devoted, or C-Type that causes this. --Veinot 18:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

This trait makes the girl's arousal level increase much faster during sex, and as a result she can be worked into perpetual climax much easier. She's also much more likely to climax with you when she's in cowgirl position.

アナル快感 "Anal Pleasure"

I also believe this lets the girl gain pleasure from anal sex easier, she doesn't scream and cry with it but acts as if she was having vaginal sex (unless its the first time she has had anal) --NeonSamurai 03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I had a girl with this trait, and although she was at green, she wouldn't let me initiate Anal sex. She was Lewd too. --Veinot 03:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Girls will only allow anal penetration when they're in the Red, even with this trait, even if you've already given her orgasms through anal sex.

Correction on the above, Lewdness and frequency of anal sex with her will modify that. At Green, she may accept anal sex immediately, she may resist at first but give in to persistent attempts, and she may be willing after orgasm from fingering or vaginal penetration. Lewd girls will react the same at Blue. If you haven't had anal sex with her since she was added to the World, then she must at least be at Red, even if she's Lewd with maximum horniness.

性欲旺盛 "Strong Sexual Appetite"

I haven't had any problems getting girls with this trait to red. What it does do is the girl wont be happy unless she comes at least 3 times, she will even try to stop you from ending the encounter up to two times by saying something each time before she will let you end the encounter (and she wont be happy when you do end it early) --NeonSamurai 03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

You won't have problems because her Love will increase for the time that you're with her, and for every orgasm you give her. Girls with Strong Sexual Appetite will have double horniness increases, so it's easier to engage them in sex (though less easy to extract yourself from that engagement; once you're in, you're in until the job is done.) Girls with Strong Sexual Appetite but not Lewd will get max horniness if they see you naked, even though they run away.

Out of the horniness points bonus, I can't see how this trait is called "Hard to satisfy". If sex scene is not done too fast/rough then the girl with this trait wont make uneasy to continue. The name "Horny" is more accurate IMHO. --MegaDriver 05:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Calling the trait 'Horny' can make discussion of horniness (ecchi need) confusing. 'Strong Sexual Appetite' is the best all around description; she gets turned on more quickly and she wants more sex. And I haven't figured out a consistent reason for this yet, but sometimes after ending a scene she still has 40-50 horniness; she can't get enough.

Uh? 40-50 horniness points left after ending H-scenes? Havent seen that with the recent V, N or M types I have individually (not unlocked lewd yet). --MegaDriver 23:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I've seen it with K, T, and M types, all with Strong Sexual Appetite. But not every time, and I haven't exactly figured out what instances cause it. Every time I've seen it I've got her to cum simultaneously and made her squirt at least once, but even then it doesn't happen every time. Also, wearing clothes or not makes no difference. I've seen it more often with Lewd girls, less often with non-Lewd, but I think that may have less to do with their Lewdness than how I treat them differently. 97.81.107.242 00:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

シスコン "Sister Fixation"

Without suprise, this trait adds some additional random talk to the girls, as with several other traits. This talk is mainly about rivalry and functions a kind of opposite from 'Likes Girls' since it seems to be very close to 'dislike girls'. The effect is a boost on jealousy from 100-500 points when 'sisters' are near the avatar, depending on their individual current relationship with him and of course other traits. With the Lewd trait it is quite easy to get to whole 'party' extremely jealous while watching the player in action even without the Jealousy trait. Currently tested this with girls with the same surname, but I don't think this is a real requirement to be considered as 'sister'. Locustus 17:51, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

運動得意 "Good at Sports"

This one makes the girl run even faster then you can at high speed run. --NeonSamurai 03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

NOT RECOMMENDED... so far i've seen, this trait makes things hard for you and not to be taken literally, i mean the one girl i had this trait with seems to move from places to places at... well... she hops from one spot to another then moved to another map a lot... - Wandering H-man 13:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

If you already know where she's going, it does cut down on the wait times; she's already there for you to collect. Combined with Clumsy trait it makes for some amusing interludes.

I don't see how you can't recommend this trait. It only makes her walk/run faster, and that's often a good thing - you want her to finish taking care of her needs so you can get back to doing her sooner. Plus, if you toggle run mode (by holding down 'E'), you can still outrun her. I'm not sure whether this trait has any effect on her stamina when it comes to sex. Trucidation 07:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I tried this trait out a bit, but don't see any real use for it. As with several other traits, it adds some additional random talk, mainly about sports and condition of course. It gives the girl indeed the ability to satisfy her basic needs faster, but this mainly means she has more iddle time to watch a swimsuit in the sea or pray at the altar. Since the game time/clock still stays the same, the time the avatar has available to spend stays the same and has to be devided between the available girls. At the start of a world it can be quite annoying to see her running off before you are able to get 'friendly' or even at 'love' with her, meaning: it soon becomes 'chasing the girl' and in a way this can funny, depending on your own preferences and it is at least something different ;) Of course, devotion could counter this a bit, and traits like 'skilled at cooking' and 'lazyness' would add more to her iddle time. Locustus 18:20, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

巧みな腰使い "Good With Waist"

This one makes the girl ride you more, and rock her hips less, which makes it faster.--NeonSamurai 03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

This increases your arousal rate while she's in this position. When your arousal is higher, she'll naturally pick up speed. Also, it's easier to control her speed the more experienced she gets, and this trait gives her maximum experience.

フェら上手 "Skilled at Fellatio"

This one as indicated makes the girl deep throat more rather then licking. Scrolling by my testing has absolutely no effect on her speed, She is in absolute control when doing this, or a hand job, or riding. The only thing the player can seem to do is make her stop by click dragging up or down --NeonSamurai 03:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Talking about testing: the deepthroating I cannot confirm. The only obvious effect I've seen so far with BJ-Expert is that instead of the sitting cowgirl she seems always to start with a BJ.
Imajia 17:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

This increases your arousal rate while she's giving head. At higher arousal rates, she naturally switches to deep throat to finish. Also, it's easier to control her speed the more experienced she gets, and this trait gives her maximum experience.

特異体質 "Idiosyncratic"

I think idiosyncratic makes the girl go to the bathroom like crazy, I tried applying it to an existing girl, and the moment it was applied she was going to the bathroom almost constantly, and when i removed it she went back to normal. she could hardly go more then a few minutes with out needing to go. --NeonSamurai 01:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Interestingly, according to the Japanese wiki it should have the exact opposite effect. If you were adding/removing traits with a cheat program, could that be messing things up? -Afker 03:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Turns out it was a glitch with the trait editor program that caused it, when I retested it I applied it using the latest maker program from Hentaijin it worked as described. Was odd though as that trait editor worked fine for the other traits --NeonSamurai 21:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
She dont go to the bathroom a lot more with this trait, it's just the fact that a girl run over the place and seems to sit on the bathroom but she dont pee. If you call her she will look for you.
Apparently, this trait locks the need to eat/pee/bath meters to their current value. Normally they would stay at zero for a newly created character, meaning that she wouldn't need go the the bathroom or eat at all. However, using a save editor to add this trait to an existing character with non-zero meters could lock it with an urgent need and mess up her behavior.

Idiosyncratic trait locks eat/pee/sleep counters. Her bathing meter will still increase, and if you cum on her two or three times you can be sure she'll be heading to the bath after the session. Other behavioral quirks come with this trait that still need testing.

料理上手 "Skilled at Cooking"

This sometimes works wonders or doesn't do anything at all... all i've experienced is girls who have this trait seems to replenish their sexual energy a lot more, testing methods: direct h after meal (or after she bails to the toilet after meals) lasts longer than girls who doesn't have this trait Also to note that it seems that it has that "sims" meter hidden somewhere which means direct H after meals and such would last longer than H actions after a couple of game-hours pass by from the time she ate. (needs double checking) - Wandering H-man 14:00, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

-addendum: Your relationship level boosts faster when you eat with a girl with this trait (yes, that means you have to sit down and eat with her) - Need help confirming - Wandering H-man 07:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


幼馴染み "Childhood Friend"

I'm wondering whether this trait does something weird to the interpretation of the Love meter. Using the savefile editor, I've discovered that a girl I created with this trait has a Love level over 1500, but she still shows up green on the indicators. Perhaps this trait increases the required Love level for her to go red, but I can't confirm that. --Eldwulf 12:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

  • P.S. No, I didn't edit the savefile, except to flip her virgin flag (heh). Certainly didn't mess with the Love value. I wonder if the reason is because her Friendship level is higher (1993 or so) than her Love level...
    • Friendship level supersceeds love level if freindship is higher. Sketchy 15:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Ah, that makes sense - sort of. Thanks. --Eldwulf 01:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Very Jealous Trait

Wasn't anything in talk section. This trait can be acquired One girl who continually bounced back and forth between red/blue states, suddenly acquired a very jealous trait when checked with trait editor, she was mainly jealous of player through all checks previous, when she aquired the trait she had 2000 love/2000 jealousy and 0 friendship towards player. This was unmodified, was just using the editor to check behaviors on clean girls in clean world(unmodified) Lewd trait: MUCH less inhibited in public areas, and they even seem occasionally to hang around semi-secluded areas if feeling amorous. Areas out of standard walk pathing in public world. There also seems to be fantasy H encounters, certain settings, like classroom near teachers desk, doctors office, etc, had one girl that hung out in both places quite awhile till i showed up and started a scene, incidently, the same one that flipped to very jealous trait. Hope this was ok to post/comment. If not del it :p, but do add that very jealous can be acquired through gameplay.

This is very interesting to learn, I'll try some testing myself, thanks for the info! --Veinot 19:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Same person, just registered: Childhood friend trait seems to have been the trigger/prereq...makes perfect anime sense, childhood friends always seem to get jealous fast if there's other females around >.> So far have not been able to get any other girl to auto acquire this trait without childhood friend trait. (Still trying though) Is there an IRC channel? Or some other means to discuss? hate taking up valuable space here -.- --VoidStar 07:57, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

男性苦手 Uneasy Around Men

This appears to reduce all Love and Friendship gains to 40%, rounded up; less than half the rate gain of a character without this trait. The proximity increase to Friendship is reduced to 1, the Love rate is reduced to 2. Because both Love and Friendship decay at a constant 2 per 10 seconds, this means you would be losing Friendship even in the girl's presence. The Friendship rate for holding hands is 8 per 10 seconds, successful hugs and kisses increase Friendship by 40. Love rates vary per personality, from 2-4.

Friendship and Love penalties are not affected by this trait. Horniness gains aren't affected, except for girls with this trait and Strong Sexual Appetite, who will only gain 120 horniness when seeing you naked.

Girls with this trait do not gain Jealousy unless they also have Extremely Jealous trait, in which case they gain 6 only Jealousy per 10 seconds compared to 18 for Extremely Jealous girls without this trait.

Girls with this trait can't be boken in to the lewd trait.

Other

Trait Effects Will Change Depending On Mood / Personality / Address / Other Traits.


Idiosyncratic 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: Doesn't eat or sleep or pee at all, according to Breaker's monitor. 
    Bathes at about the same rate. Sometimes hangs out on the toilet, apparently just cause it's 
    something to do, and will get up immediately when called.

Update to idiosyncratic: I've had this happen to me, and read about it from two others. Occasionally a girl will be locked into a particular action. For me it was eating. She'd eat, finish, stand up, then sit down immediately and repeat. The problem is, I hadn't been touching the girls' eat need scores, nor messing around with the save. I only used the ingame trainer which comes with InuRa's all-in-one patch to adjust jealousy/love/friendship. Even setting her eat points to zero or max (or anything inbetween) had no effect. I could strip naked and hammer the rightclick button to attempt to interact with her as soon as she got up, but she'd only run to some random destination, then immediately run back to eat.

She was behaving just fine previously. The only guess I can take a stab at is that this was probably triggered when she walked in on me having sex with another girl, because prior to this I'd been careful to do it in secluded areas but only got careless a few times before this incident. Nothing else I can do will break her out of this cycle, not even maxing her other needs or even the unrelated scores.

So, I'd recommend not using the idiosyncratic trait. It doesn't really seem to have any other effect anyway, outside of affect need scores, and you can manually adjust those with the trainer anyway. Trucidation 07:46, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


Sleeping Beauty 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: It depends more on the personality type. I had a non-Timid T-Type who I 
    only spoke two words to at the dinner table, slept in her bed twice and she was up to 1600 
    love.

Harder to satisfy. 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: She's also more likely to take initiative during sex, though not as much 
   as Devoted.

Clumsy 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: Collapses due to tripping won't count with the 10 sexual exhaustion 
   collapses. It's very easy to mistake them after ending a scene, so it's more difficult to keep 
   count.

Very Stimulating Pussy 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: This also increases arousal rate in anal penetration.

Sensitive 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: I think the horniness gains need to be verified and perhaps matched with 
   other traits, p-types. I had thought horniness increased quicker at first, but lately I've 
   watched and compared, and found that they increase at about the same rate as girls without the 
   trait. Also, testing with V and K Types shows that Friendship rates are about the same.

Devoted 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: With high enough love or horniness, she may take control if you stop at any 
   point, even if you've just started. Also more likely to reciprocate with a handjob in the 
   standing front and sleeping/waking positions.

Timid 

EDIT - DokEnkephalin: This is somewhat modified by personality type and how they address and   
   regard you. A V-type for example, will keep her poise, a C-type will be scared shitless to see 
   you. If she regards you as a superior (Master/Sensei) she will stay meeker at any relationship  
   values. Also, in spite of second-hand reports from the Illusion blog, 10 collapses due to sexual 
   exhaustion will still give her the Lewd trait, and she will appear more confident after that.



These were all copied and pasted directly from a post on hongfire, I don't think DokEnkephalin himself put those on here. The things he's sure about should be worked into the article, while the other things should be tested --Veinot 23:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, sorry to DokEnkephalin, culprit "Decnineteen" found on 9 january.--MegaDriver 00:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

- If you _read_ the post, it's a updated trait listing that DokEnkephalin edited, at my community request. I gave the credit due for his testing with Breaker's AG3 monitor. Your culprit updated every trait on this wiki, investing several hours in searching the threads for recent information. Loda's translation from Japanese text on how to acquire the Lewd trait was also added, found in those threads. -- DECNINETEEN.

- To DECNINETEEN I dont have a problem with the info you add or to give proper credit, but the way you added the information is messing the wiki, your data looks more like a personal blog. This wiki's goal is to help newbies and reduce dumb questions in hongfire, so the info must be objective and easy to read, filling it with loots of paragraphs explaining every simple detail doesnt contribute to that goal. Anyway, this is the talk page and here we can put all the "Maybe this can work..." or "This happened to me and can be interesting if somebody else try it..." comments. --MegaDriver 03:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

- To MegaDriver

I agree the information provided needs editing, but this is still a discussion page. The information decnineteen contributed was in good intent and the content was faithfully ported from the Hongfire thread. I am DokEnkephalin, I just can't log in because I can't reset my password, but I'll verify any quotes attributed to me on Hongfire.

- To DokEnkephalin

Got it, I'm playing less lately, reading here an there to try new findings and updating the wiki if confirmed.--MegaDriver 03:40, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

- Those instructions on acquiring traits should really be moved to separate pages, to move possible spoilers and make editing and reading of the trait descriptions themselves cleaner. 97.81.111.27 17:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC) [DokEnkephalin]

  1. I would suggest to move both parts about requiring traits (currently Lewd and Brother Fictation) to the bottom of the page, since it is not about the function of the trait itself, has a higher spoiler content and this also would make it easier to add more 'how to get ....' (whenever that might happen). Locustus 17:51, May 22, 2010 (UTC)


Nearsighted... works??

Decided to make a nearsighted girl for the first time... She still runs off if she sees me naked... Only one of her outfits has glasses. I even took out all her other traits and left her with just the nearsighted one.

Does it only work sometimes or does the outfit with the glasses allow her to see even if she's NOT wearing it?--190.234.133.86 05:19, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

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