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Abstract of tests done is coming

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 '''Purpose:'''
 We seek to answer the questions:
-. What variables cause spontaneous public sex?
+'''1.''' What variables cause spontaneous public sex?
-. Is there any difference between a simple low virtue situation with no lover attachments and a situation where every student is the lover of every other student?
+'''2.''' Is there any difference between a simple low virtue situation with no lover attachments and a situation where every student is the lover of every other student?
-. Is there a difference between all students in a lover relationship with all other students and less inclusive lover relationships in the student group, such as a harem or random lover relationships?
+'''3.''' Is there a difference between all students in a lover relationship with all other students and less inclusive lover relationships in the student group, such as a harem or random lover relationships?
 '''Criteria/Goals for all tests:'''

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 '''4. Highest social set for everyone'''
 		Good when coupled with either
-			'''a.''' removing the traits that are contrary to the goals.
+			'''a.''' removing the traits that are contrary to the goals or
 			'''b.''' setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config.
 		Otherwise it works contrary to the goals over the long term due to jealousy and focus on the favored partner.

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 '''Criteria/Goals for all tests:'''
-. 80% should join in with public H regularly.
+'''1.''' 80% should join in with public H regularly.
-. Students should switch partners indiscriminately.
+'''2.''' Students should switch partners indiscriminately.
-. The full selection of positions should be available.
+'''3.''' The full selection of positions should be available.
-. There should be no violence, accusations of cheating and no or little jealousy.
+'''4.''' There should be no violence, accusations of cheating and no or little jealousy.
-. It should be sustainable for as long as the player wishes within time limits.
+'''5.''' It should be sustainable for as long as the player wishes within time limits.
-. Students should consistently participate in a variety of social activities other than H.
+'''6.''' Students should consistently participate in a variety of social activities other than H.
 '''Settings''' Part 1 tested for the best arrangement to meet the goals with a class that did not allow lover relationships. The starting conditions for each test were the same but different variables were added or subtracted to determine their effect against the goals.
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 '''2. Romantic/Passionate trait and Lewd/Perverted trait given to everyone'''
 		Good when coupled with either
-			a. removing the traits that are contrary to the goals (see below)
+			'''a.''' removing the traits that are contrary to the goals (see below).
-			b. setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config
+			'''b.''' setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config.
 		Otherwise they work contrary to the goals over the long term due to jealousy and focus on the favored partner.
-'''3. Traits that are contrary to the goals removed from everyone.'''  These are the traits of Violent, Scheming, Evil, Masochist, Exploitable, Competitive, Asexual, Singleminded, Jealous, Bad with Guys, Bad with Girls, Tsundere
+'''3. Traits that are contrary to the goals removed from everyone.'''  These are the traits of Violent, Scheming, Evil, Masochist, Exploitable, Competitive, Asexual, Singleminded, Jealous, Bad with Guys, Bad with Girls, Tsundere.
-		Worked well but was unnecessary when Config is set with all Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0
+		This worked well but is unnecessary when Config is set with all Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0.
-		Even with the Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0 the singleminded/faithful trait should not be used
+		There is one exception: even with the Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0 the singleminded/faithful trait should not be used
 '''4. Highest social set for everyone'''
 		Good when coupled with either
-			a. removing the traits that are contrary to the goals
+			'''a.''' removing the traits that are contrary to the goals.
-			b. setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config
+			'''b.''' setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config.
 		Otherwise it works contrary to the goals over the long term due to jealousy and focus on the favored partner.
 '''5. Love/Like modifies set at 10 and Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0'''
 		Best if only the Hate/dislike modifiers set at 0 are used and the Love/like modifiers are ignored. This tends to eliminate jealousy and negate the effects of evil and scheming traits.  Using both tends to reduce promiscuity having students focus only on favored partner.
-		Using either or both tends eliminate social interactions, but does allow some. This can be balanced by using all the traits that are contrary to the goals except "singleminded"
+		Using either or both of these tends eliminate social interactions, but does allow some. This can be balanced by using all the traits except "singleminded"
 '''6. Everyone in H-mood'''
 		Completely focuses on H and removes all social interaction so it was decided not to use it

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 The following data was determined about the following variables.
-. Simply making everyone low virtue does not bring about spontaneous public sex.
+'''1. Low Virtue''' Simply making everyone low virtue does not bring about spontaneous public sex.
-. Romantic/Passionate trait and Lewd/Perverted trait given to everyone
+'''2. Romantic/Passionate trait and Lewd/Perverted trait given to everyone'''
 		Good when coupled with either
 			a. removing the traits that are contrary to the goals (see below)
 			b. setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config
 		Otherwise they work contrary to the goals over the long term due to jealousy and focus on the favored partner.
-. Traits that are contrary to the goals removed from everyone.  These are the traits of Violent, Scheming, Evil, Masochist, Exploitable, Competitive, Asexual, Singleminded, Jealous, Bad with Guys, Bad with Girls, Tsundere
+'''3. Traits that are contrary to the goals removed from everyone.'''  These are the traits of Violent, Scheming, Evil, Masochist, Exploitable, Competitive, Asexual, Singleminded, Jealous, Bad with Guys, Bad with Girls, Tsundere
 		Worked well but was unnecessary when Config is set with all Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0
 		Even with the Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0 the singleminded/faithful trait should not be used
-. Highest social set for everyone
+'''4. Highest social set for everyone'''
 		Good when coupled with either
 			a. removing the traits that are contrary to the goals
 			b. setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config
 		Otherwise it works contrary to the goals over the long term due to jealousy and focus on the favored partner.
-. Love/Like modifies set at 10 and Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0
+'''5. Love/Like modifies set at 10 and Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0'''
 		Best if only the Hate/dislike modifiers set at 0 are used and the Love/like modifiers are ignored. This tends to eliminate jealousy and negate the effects of evil and scheming traits.  Using both tends to reduce promiscuity having students focus only on favored partner.
 		Using either or both tends eliminate social interactions, but does allow some. This can be balanced by using all the traits that are contrary to the goals except "singleminded"
-. Everyone in H-mood
+'''6. Everyone in H-mood'''
 		Completely focuses on H and removes all social interaction so it was decided not to use it
-. Everyone let's have sex
+'''7. Everyone let's have sex'''
 		Was seen as a distraction but on test, eliminating it made it harder to achieve the goals, so it was kept.

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 The following is a short summation. Many details have been left out and will be available in a downloadable file with gamesaves once I organize my notes.
-Purpose:
+'''Purpose:'''
 We seek to answer the questions:
 . What variables cause spontaneous public sex?
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 . Is there a difference between all students in a lover relationship with all other students and less inclusive lover relationships in the student group, such as a harem or random lover relationships?
-Criteria/Goals for all tests:
+'''Criteria/Goals for all tests:'''
 . 80% should join in with public H regularly.
 . Students should switch partners indiscriminately.
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 . Students should consistently participate in a variety of social activities other than H.
-Part 1 tested for the best arrangement to meet the goals with a class that did not allow lover relationships. The starting conditions for each test were the same but different variables were added or subtracted to determine their effect against the goals 10 student class with no teacher and one male.
+'''Settings''' Part 1 tested for the best arrangement to meet the goals with a class that did not allow lover relationships. The starting conditions for each test were the same but different variables were added or subtracted to determine their effect against the goals.
 Highlights of the settings for the basic or benchmark test are as follows: A 10 student class with one male and no teacher. The students were all virgins and did not have any previous experience with each other. All the traits were used in different students except for the romantic/passionate trait and the lewd/perverted trait, because these two traits would be tested. A random selection of personalities was used. Each test started with the same virgin unacquainted class. Each test went one week in game time. In Config: Pregnancy risk safe, Disable "Violent", "Abusive" and "Competitive" Actions. Full settings are included in the full write up.
-Results of the tests for part 1
+'''Results of the tests for part 1'''
 The goals were not achieved. The inability to keep all the positions active unless you are in a lover relationship, forces lewed characters to focus on a main partner or two, thus defeating the goal of easy public H with people frequently switching partners. Also the focus on H only tends to eliminate the social actions in the game.
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 		Was seen as a distraction but on test, eliminating it made it harder to achieve the goals, so it was kept.
-The game combination that is closest to reaching the goals is:
+'''The game combination that is closest to reaching the goals is:'''
 . The settings of the benchmark test plus:
 . Everyone with Lewd/Perverted Trait, Passionate/Romantic Trait, and Highest Social

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	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' Sorry for the delay. Illness, and an emergency trip out of the country have delayed me. Also it became apparent that several other tests were needed. The abstract will be posted this week. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 10:54, 1 December 2014 (UTC)		:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' Sorry for the delay. Illness, and an emergency trip out of the country have delayed me. Also it became apparent that several other tests were needed. The abstract will be posted this week. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 10:54, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
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		+	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' Here is the abstract for the first series of tests. The next set of tests would be with the Lover option active.
		+	AA2 Test group 1: tests to achieve "Orgy" mode with No Lovers
		+
		+	Abstract of Part 1
		+
		+	The following is a short summation. Many details have been left out and will be available in a downloadable file with gamesaves once I organize my notes.
		+
		+	Purpose:
		+	We seek to answer the questions:
		+	1. What variables cause spontaneous public sex?
		+	2. Is there any difference between a simple low virtue situation with no lover attachments and a situation where every student is the lover of every other student?
		+	3. Is there a difference between all students in a lover relationship with all other students and less inclusive lover relationships in the student group, such as a harem or random lover relationships?
		+
		+	Criteria/Goals for all tests:
		+	1. 80% should join in with public H regularly.
		+	2. Students should switch partners indiscriminately.
		+	3. The full selection of positions should be available.
		+	4. There should be no violence, accusations of cheating and no or little jealousy.
		+	5. It should be sustainable for as long as the player wishes within time limits.
		+	6. Students should consistently participate in a variety of social activities other than H.
		+
		+	Part 1 tested for the best arrangement to meet the goals with a class that did not allow lover relationships. The starting conditions for each test were the same but different variables were added or subtracted to determine their effect against the goals 10 student class with no teacher and one male.
		+
		+	Highlights of the settings for the basic or benchmark test are as follows: A 10 student class with one male and no teacher. The students were all virgins and did not have any previous experience with each other. All the traits were used in different students except for the romantic/passionate trait and the lewd/perverted trait, because these two traits would be tested. A random selection of personalities was used. Each test started with the same virgin unacquainted class. Each test went one week in game time. In Config: Pregnancy risk safe, Disable "Violent", "Abusive" and "Competitive" Actions. Full settings are included in the full write up.
		+
		+	Results of the tests for part 1
		+	The goals were not achieved. The inability to keep all the positions active unless you are in a lover relationship, forces lewed characters to focus on a main partner or two, thus defeating the goal of easy public H with people frequently switching partners. Also the focus on H only tends to eliminate the social actions in the game.
		+
		+	The following data was determined about the following variables.
		+	0. Simply making everyone low virtue does not bring about spontaneous public sex.
		+	1. Romantic/Passionate trait and Lewd/Perverted trait given to everyone
		+	Good when coupled with either
		+	a. removing the traits that are contrary to the goals (see below)
		+	b. setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config
		+	Otherwise they work contrary to the goals over the long term due to jealousy and focus on the favored partner.
		+	2. Traits that are contrary to the goals removed from everyone. These are the traits of Violent, Scheming, Evil, Masochist, Exploitable, Competitive, Asexual, Singleminded, Jealous, Bad with Guys, Bad with Girls, Tsundere
		+	Worked well but was unnecessary when Config is set with all Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0
		+	Even with the Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0 the singleminded/faithful trait should not be used
		+	3. Highest social set for everyone
		+	Good when coupled with either
		+	a. removing the traits that are contrary to the goals
		+	b. setting the Hate/Dislike modifiers at 0 in config
		+	Otherwise it works contrary to the goals over the long term due to jealousy and focus on the favored partner.
		+	4. Love/Like modifies set at 10 and Hate/Dislike modifiers set at 0
		+	Best if only the Hate/dislike modifiers set at 0 are used and the Love/like modifiers are ignored. This tends to eliminate jealousy and negate the effects of evil and scheming traits. Using both tends to reduce promiscuity having students focus only on favored partner.
		+	Using either or both tends eliminate social interactions, but does allow some. This can be balanced by using all the traits that are contrary to the goals except "singleminded"
		+	5. Everyone in H-mood
		+	Completely focuses on H and removes all social interaction so it was decided not to use it
		+	6. Everyone let's have sex
		+	Was seen as a distraction but on test, eliminating it made it harder to achieve the goals, so it was kept.
		+
		+	The game combination that is closest to reaching the goals is:
		+	0. The settings of the benchmark test plus:
		+	1. Everyone with Lewd/Perverted Trait, Passionate/Romantic Trait, and Highest Social
		+	3. No one has the Singleminded Trait
		+	4. The three Hate/Dislike modifiers in Config are checked and set at 0
		+	--[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 20:44, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' An update. After several false starts, I have done 11 tests covering the effects of various elements used cause a "horny" group of students except for "lover" arrangements. I will be writing an abstract of what I have done so far. Some interesting surprises have come up which may or may not be already known. I will need to do another shorter series of tests that investigate various "lover" arrangements including the lover arrangement that is key to (for lack of a better name) Orgy Academy. The weekend is over so I will be back at work and have little time, but I will work on the abstract here and there and it will probably be up on this page within a week (plus or minus). The full write-up with gamesaves will be available later to download for the curious or those who wish to verify. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)		:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' An update. After several false starts, I have done 11 tests covering the effects of various elements used cause a "horny" group of students except for "lover" arrangements. I will be writing an abstract of what I have done so far. Some interesting surprises have come up which may or may not be already known. I will need to do another shorter series of tests that investigate various "lover" arrangements including the lover arrangement that is key to (for lack of a better name) Orgy Academy. The weekend is over so I will be back at work and have little time, but I will work on the abstract here and there and it will probably be up on this page within a week (plus or minus). The full write-up with gamesaves will be available later to download for the curious or those who wish to verify. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
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		+	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' Sorry for the delay. Illness, and an emergency trip out of the country have delayed me. Also it became apparent that several other tests were needed. The abstract will be posted this week. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 10:54, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

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−	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' An update. After several false starts, I have done 11 covering the effects of various elements used cause a "horny" group of students except for "lover" arrangements. I will be writing an abstract of what I have done so far. Some interesting surprises have come up which may or may not be already known. I will need to do another shorter series of tests that investigate various "lover" arrangements including the lover arrangement that is key to (for lack of a better name) Orgy Academy. The weekend is over so I will be back at work and have little time, but I will work on the abstract here and there and it will probably be up on this page within a week (plus or minus). The full write-up with gamesaves will be available later to download for the curious or those who wish to verify. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)	+	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' An update. After several false starts, I have done 11 tests covering the effects of various elements used cause a "horny" group of students except for "lover" arrangements. I will be writing an abstract of what I have done so far. Some interesting surprises have come up which may or may not be already known. I will need to do another shorter series of tests that investigate various "lover" arrangements including the lover arrangement that is key to (for lack of a better name) Orgy Academy. The weekend is over so I will be back at work and have little time, but I will work on the abstract here and there and it will probably be up on this page within a week (plus or minus). The full write-up with gamesaves will be available later to download for the curious or those who wish to verify. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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−	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' An update. After several false starts, I have done ~~about 20 tests so far and~~ 11 of ~~them are relevant. this covers all the~~ various elements except for "lover" arrangements. I will be writing an abstract of what I have done so far. Some interesting surprises have come up which may or may not be already known. I will need to do another shorter series of tests that investigate various "lover" arrangements including the lover arrangement that is key to (for lack of a better name) Orgy Academy. The weekend is over so I will be back at work and have little time, but I will work on the abstract here and there and will probably be up within a week. The full write-up with gamesaves will be available later. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)	+	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' An update. After several false starts, I have done 11 covering the effects of various elements used cause a "horny" group of students except for "lover" arrangements. I will be writing an abstract of what I have done so far. Some interesting surprises have come up which may or may not be already known. I will need to do another shorter series of tests that investigate various "lover" arrangements including the lover arrangement that is key to (for lack of a better name) Orgy Academy. The weekend is over so I will be back at work and have little time, but I will work on the abstract here and there and it will probably be up on this page within a week (plus or minus). The full write-up with gamesaves will be available later to download for the curious or those who wish to verify. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' The orgy academy is not the same as just making everyone lewd etc. Having everyone lovers with everyone else is the difference and it brings about different behavior in the students - or so I have seen. This idea has been met with great suspicion, so I have taken it upon myself to conduct tests to show this. The tests compare various combinations of cheats and things from the patches - to the "orgy" arrangement. There are about 12 - 14 tests that involve playing the game for a week or more (in game days) with a benchmark for comparison. I am keeping the gamesaves for each test and documenting the results. My time is limited and I have so far done 7 tests. If you like, I can do an abstract of what I have so far. Some interesting unrelated data about the game has come up. So please hold for now. Sorry I can't do this faster but a lot goes on in my life.		:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' The orgy academy is not the same as just making everyone lewd etc. Having everyone lovers with everyone else is the difference and it brings about different behavior in the students - or so I have seen. This idea has been met with great suspicion, so I have taken it upon myself to conduct tests to show this. The tests compare various combinations of cheats and things from the patches - to the "orgy" arrangement. There are about 12 - 14 tests that involve playing the game for a week or more (in game days) with a benchmark for comparison. I am keeping the gamesaves for each test and documenting the results. My time is limited and I have so far done 7 tests. If you like, I can do an abstract of what I have so far. Some interesting unrelated data about the game has come up. So please hold for now. Sorry I can't do this faster but a lot goes on in my life.
	[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 12:15, 28 October 2014 (UTC)		[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 12:15, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
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		+	:'''@ xxGODLIKExx:''' An update. After several false starts, I have done about 20 tests so far and 11 of them are relevant. this covers all the various elements except for "lover" arrangements. I will be writing an abstract of what I have done so far. Some interesting surprises have come up which may or may not be already known. I will need to do another shorter series of tests that investigate various "lover" arrangements including the lover arrangement that is key to (for lack of a better name) Orgy Academy. The weekend is over so I will be back at work and have little time, but I will work on the abstract here and there and will probably be up within a week. The full write-up with gamesaves will be available later. --[[User:Chicory\|Chicory]] ([[User talk:Chicory\|talk]]) 23:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)